For a department such as ours that is made up of supposedly boring people in a supposedly boring profession, I must say that it is extremely rare that we have a dull moment. This little story is one example why.
A male junior staffer, I’m going to call him Daniel, walked into my office one morning last week to express a certain “concern” he was having with one of the female senior staffers in our department. For the sake of our story, I will call this female senior staffer Kate.
But first, let me give you some background information on both individuals. Both are relatively new to the department. Daniel joined us in October of last year while Kate joined us in January of this year. Both are very intelligent, driven and hardworking individuals. Kate hails from Georgia in the southern part of the United States while Daniel was born and raised in New York. Kate is about 29 years old while Daniel is slightly younger at 24. Kate stands about 5′8″ while Daniel is about 5′9″.
Anyway, Daniel walked into my my office to complain that Kate has been making him feel “quite uncomfortable”. He had worked under her (no pun intended) on a couple of projects in the last three months. In our group, a project, from start to finish, has an average life cycle of four weeks and thus, Daniel had worked under Kate’s lead for about eight weeks in the past few months.
He complained to me by citing a few examples as to why he’s uncomfortable with her. In his examples, he mentioned that:
- Kate often looks at his “package” (the crotch area of his pants) whenever she talks to him;
- While leaning over his shoulder one time to view what was on his computer monitor, she had placed her hand on top of his and proceeded to move the computer mouse in order to move the cursor to a particular part of the screen;
- She supposedly caresses his shoulders every once in a while while chatting with him; and that
- He had caught her listening in to his phone calls with his girlfriend. He found out about this because after he was done talking to his girlfriend over the phone, Kate came over and asked questions that were very specific to what Daniel had just discussed with his girlfriend.
He told me that he finds it hard to respect her as a Team Leader because of her actions. I asked him then if he had let her known that her actions bother him. He told me he hasn’t.
I tried to play the devil’s advocate by attempting to point out to Daniel that it could be possible that she didn’t intend any malice in any of her actions; that maybe, that’s just the way she is. Plus, as mentioned earlier, Kate came from a different region of the United States. As with every other country in the world, people that come from different regions have their own ways and sensitivities. That could be true in this case. Thus, I’m wondering if maybe, just maybe, that Daniel could be misinterpreting her actions.
Daniel was intent on bringing this matter up with our company’s Ethics Officer. But I advised him that I think it would be fair for everyone concerned if he sit back for now and see if the same problem with Kate shows up again. If it does, I advised him to immediately let her know, as a warning, that what she’s doing is bothering him or making him uncomfortable. If that doesn’t stop her, then he has all the right in the world to report the matter directly to our Ethics Officer. Daniel agreed and that’s where we are right now with this situation.
It wouldn’t be fair to Kate if I allowed Daniel to immediately report this matter to the Ethics Officer. Kate deserves a chance to deny or dispute an allegation before it gets raised to a higher authority. Holding off on reporting this matter is the prudent thing to do given the current circumstances. None of the other guys in our department who have dealt with Kate have reported being on the receiving end of any unprofessional acts or unwelcome advances from her. Thus, Daniel’s source(s) of discomfort with Kate could be a matter of perception or that he may be more overly sensitive to what she does as compared to the others. Thus, as far as I’m concerned, Kate, is to be considered innocent for now.


July 8, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
Hmmm…Daniel seems unable to stop and smell the roses eh ?
Reporting her to the ethics committee will be silly because he will look like a dork reporting something which is a case of perception on his part. What Daniel needs to do is to show her that he is sexually disinterested in her without being unprofessional and that means only talking to her about business matters and nothing else.
They say “luck is an opportunity turned into an account” and it looks like it’s not happening to Daniel this time around hehehe
July 9, 2009 at 7:24 am |
BW,
That’s what is a bit tricky about this situation. I haven’t noticed her act in the manner that Daniel described to any other male staffer in the department. Thus, it is very possible that Daniel may be a bit oversensitive to her actions. I will give his complaint more weight should another person come forward to complain about the same thing.
July 8, 2009 at 5:38 pm |
Positions of influence are oftentimes misunderstood.
Daniel would probably react differently if Kate weren’t the team leader.
I know I would. hehehe
July 9, 2009 at 7:30 am |
Beatburn,
You may be right about that. Daniel probably would have reacted differently if it was a peer making the supposed advances.
July 8, 2009 at 5:53 pm |
Hmm, if she’s hot, and “hunting”, and I’m single… papatulan ko yan , hehehe.
Anyways, if your colleague’s suspicion is correct, then kudos to him for being faithful to his girlfriend.
July 9, 2009 at 8:21 am |
Snglguy,
You’re right. If he’s correct about his suspicions then yes, he deserves kudos for resisting the temptation. Staying faithful is rather tough to do when you’re a young, single guy with raging hormones.
July 8, 2009 at 7:07 pm |
Maybe there’s a spilled ketchup on his crotch.
July 9, 2009 at 8:25 am |
Abaniko,
Or something else of a different color. Yikes! Hahaha
July 8, 2009 at 8:58 pm |
It’s best to speak to Kate first and let her know how he feels before going to the Ethics committee. It may be a misinterpretation due to what you mentioned cultural/regional differences.
And some people are just plain touchy. I mean they tend to touch people without malice.
July 9, 2009 at 12:32 pm |
Ewok1993,
I’ve thought about speaking to Kate but I’m still struggling with that idea right now. I worry that it might unduly surprise her if I do and it might immediately put her in a defensive position. I think I would rather have Daniel speak to her about it should she “do” it again.
My gut says to me that she never intended any malice. She is very friendly and it’s very possible that it’s being misinterpreted.
July 9, 2009 at 2:13 am |
anything interesting on his crotch? a fly, maybe?
when i was in my early 20’s, my boss, who was in his mid 50’s, had a habit of putting his hand on my [and other girls in the office as well] nape whenever he talked to me. he would stand on my side, lean over and put his hand on my nape, massaging it sometimes, at minsan may line pang—malagkit na ang batok mo, mag break ka muna! it made me uncomfortable, but i was young, at di pa uso ang mga sexual harassment cases noon. di ko alam kung sasapakin ko ba sya o baliin ang kamay na nasa batok ko! i shared my discomfort with another male manager, at sabi nya, hayaan ko na kasi ganon naman sya sa lahat ng babae sa office. then one night, overtime kami, i passed by his desk, may dala akong kape—he pinched me on the rear! sa gulat ko, muntik ko na itapon sa kanya ang mainit na kape (lol). i expressed my disgust at tumawa lang sya, di naman daw ako mabiro! ang kapal! i finished a project we were working on and quit my job.
i think you should talk to Kate one of these days and tell her about Daniel’s complain. or observe her with other male colleagues. kahit ba walang malisya kay Kate, kung di naman comfortbale si Daniel, dapat malaman ni Kate yon so she can also defend or clarify herself.
July 9, 2009 at 12:51 pm |
Luna Miranda,
Hahahaha She probably saw a fly indeed.
It’s very unfortunate but what your old boss did was very common back in the day when the notion of “sexual harassment” was scoffed at in male-dominated organizations. Women had to put up with a lot of indignities and lewd behavior in the workplace just to stay employed. It’s unfortunate too that there’s still a lot of this type of behavior going on. An old, late neighbor was that way too when dealing with female employees. The firm I worked for had a project with his company close to 20 years ago. He was already in his 80s then but still, he would smack women in the rear whenever he walked by them. The guy was a playboy. Anyway, I congratulate you for the courage to quit that job. It’s not the type of company worth working for.
As for Kate, I will closely observe her in the coming days to see if there’s some validity to Daniel’s complaints.
July 9, 2009 at 2:20 am |
Talking about “sexual harassment”, from where I am, that’s one for the books. Abangan ang susunod na kabanata!
July 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
Blogusvox,
Abangan! Hahahaha I just don’t know kung kailan ang next chapter nito.
July 9, 2009 at 2:22 am |
Maybe he’s just too “feeling”… haha!
July 9, 2009 at 12:55 pm |
Aline,
Maybe he is being too sensitive. I haven’t heard any complaints yet from the other guys in the department. Thus, Kate remains innocent until proven otherwise.
July 9, 2009 at 7:08 am |
I think that was just a perception on his part. It depends on orientation talaga. I was lauging out at this: “For a department such as ours that is made up of supposedly boring people in a supposedly boring profession” – hahahaha, sobrang relate ako. Masaya naman di ba? =)
July 9, 2009 at 1:23 pm |
WitsandNuts,
Unfortunately, we suffer from the misperception that ours is a boring profession. It has an image problem and I blame it on poor packaging and presentation. Hehehe It could really be very exciting at times.
July 9, 2009 at 8:06 am |
i wouldn’t mind her staring at my crotch. basta ako titingin din sa bosom nya. para walang dehado. hehe…
July 9, 2009 at 1:24 pm |
The Scud,
As long as there’s mutual consent, go right ahead. Hehehe
July 9, 2009 at 10:32 am |
touching shoulders. i always do that when i leave the office these days, because those i leave behind are the people who will handle the next major newscast. it’s my way of making them feel a bit better, that i understand the stress, as they stare at the computer screen and i walk home.
you did right by not having the guy tell the ethics officer. but (i’m saying this as a girl), i would ask kate to have coffee with me and tell her about daniel’s concern. while there may be no malice there, i would suggest that she be careful where she lets her eyes (and hands) land.
honestly, i won’t put my hand on top of anyone’s hand. ewww. not anyone of the people i work with. i’ve never done that.
July 9, 2009 at 3:06 pm |
Atticus,
I’ve thought about speaking to her and I have to admit that I’m still struggling with the idea. I’ll try to come up with a way to convey the message to her and it will probably be while we’re having a casual conversation.
Kate putting her hand on top of Daniel’s is something I find quite weird. That’s just way too friendly a gesture for my comfort.
July 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
Good judgement.
There’s always two sides to every story anyways. I agree with Atticus.. I won’t put my hand on top of any of my colleagues, a bit inappropriate in my opinion. Hehe.
July 9, 2009 at 3:07 pm |
Cza,
Thank you.
It was a bit weird and inappropriate for her to do that. She was getting “too comfortable” with the person when she did that. Just my opinion.
Anyway, thank you very much for the visit. Much appreciated.
July 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm |
Your office sounds so much fun! Can I apply? Kidding. =p
July 9, 2009 at 3:10 pm |
Andy Briones,
Sure, Pards! Send me your resume.
I’ll be glad to have a 3rd Pinoy in our department.
July 9, 2009 at 2:19 pm |
baka naman may langaw lang na gustong bugawin si Kate sa harap nya..masyado namang nagmamaganda agad si Daniel,hihihi
Aba sa ibang lalaki eh howkey sa olrayt yung ginawa ni Kate…wow sya sa pagiging faithful sa gf nya! waittt..purong lalaki ba kaya si daniel? hihihi
nakatakas lang ako..sira pa din ang lappy ko..ahahaha
July 9, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
P0kw4ng,
So far eh mukha namang purong lalaki siya. Hahahaha Hindi ko pa naman siya nakikitang nag-aabaniko.
Sana maayos na ang lappy mo. Nagiging quiet ka tuloy.
Ingat.
July 10, 2009 at 7:01 am |
baka naman kasi malaki ang “package” ni daniel hahaha
July 10, 2009 at 7:47 am |
Madbong,
Hahahaha Ewan ko lang, Pards. Baka kapansin-pansin noong kausap siya ni Kate.
July 11, 2009 at 12:39 am |
that indeed was the best thing to do. why can’t he even have the balls (yup i mean the real thing he he) to tell her that her “advances” are unwelcome? dahil boss? come on. from where I sit, baka sinisiraan nya lang ang tao. sya ba next sa succession? he he. ayan na intriga tuloy. ang corny kasi.
July 11, 2009 at 12:15 pm |
R-Yo,
Intriga na nga. Hahahaha
Kate is indeed being groomed for promotion to manager. I would also like to give Daniel the benefit of the doubt as to what his motivations were in complaining about her. He has told me that should she get promoted, that he will have problems respecting her because of her actions. But, although I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt, I am also not ruling out the possibility that he may be against the idea of her getting promoted.
I agree with you. That’s why I asked him to let her know first that she’s making him uncomfortable before he raises the issue with the Ethics Officer.
July 11, 2009 at 2:54 am |
I think it’s all about culture-sensitivity. Daniel is, imo, overreacting. Kate would have taken the flirting outside the office if she was really serious about hitting on Daniel. Sometimes we tend to imagine things.
July 11, 2009 at 12:18 pm |
Mari,
A peer of Daniel’s had confided to me that there are times when Daniel could be quite full of himself. Daniel knows he’s smart and good-looking. Thus, you’re right, he may be oversensitive to certain actions from women simply because of how he views himself.
July 11, 2009 at 3:28 am |
aba,kung ganun,dapat may pagipit sa ibaba. para huli sa akto.he he he.
pero di kaya,may purpose din ang kwento ni daniel.
gaya nga ng sabi ni blogusvox.abangang ang susunod na kabanata!
July 11, 2009 at 12:21 pm |
Ever,
Baka nga siguro na may purpose ang pagsumbong niya. Nag-iingat din ako na hindi magpadala sa mga hinala niya Kailangan talagang mapatunayan muna na totoo ang mga hinala ni Daniel kay Kate. Pero kung wala namang katibayan, mahirap na isumbong si Kate.
Si Daniel lang ang nakakaalam kung ano ang talagang hinahangad niya. Hindi ko alam kung inggit dahil malapit nang i-promote si Kate. Tignan natin. Abangan! Hehehe
July 11, 2009 at 6:07 pm |
yeah, kate is innocent until she’s proven guilty.
is kate beautiful? how i wish i’m working under her (no pun intended too). hehe
July 11, 2009 at 7:12 pm |
FlaminDevil,
Kate’s pretty. I’ll let her know that you’re interested. Hehehe
July 12, 2009 at 1:19 am |
kakaiba, no? lalaki ang nagrereklamo ng tila sexual harassment. and in a western country. i won’t place a hand on a man’s hand. i know the feeling of being harassed but it would help telling that person what you truly feel. i have been always vocal about such attempts. kahit verbal lang.
July 13, 2009 at 8:00 am |
Bing,
I agree with you. The next time Kate does such things, Daniel ought to immediately let her know of what he feels about it. She may be just the “touchy, feely” type with no malicious intent. However, it is better that it be made known to her that not everyone is comfortable with her actions.
July 12, 2009 at 11:43 pm |
Double Standard Rules favors women most of the time.
Men rape under age girls, they could almost spent their lives behind bars; women rape under age boys, some get probations or less prison time.
My take on this is; Daniel should feel lucky, hehe… wish some women harrassed me during my younger days, my hormones were running wild then.
Nice post. Cheers!
July 13, 2009 at 8:48 am |
TruBlue,
Maybe Kate’s not pretty enough for him? Hehehe
I had to talk Daniel off his plan to raise the matter with the Ethics Officer. I felt that Kate ought to be given the chance to either defend herself or stop whatever it was that she was doing.
Thanks and I hope things are well with you and the family.
July 13, 2009 at 7:12 am |
“Thus, as far as I’m concerned, Kate, is to be considered innocent for now.”
And rightfully so. Sometimes, people tend to misconstrue a lot of things. A harmless pat on the shoulder, a slight touch on the hair, and yes, placing one’s hand over your hand to guide the mouse… all of these can be blown out of proportion by the receiver. Unfortunately for the Kate, her intentions are being given malice.
Teka, you say Kate is pretty? What’s wrong with your guy??? hahaha
July 13, 2009 at 8:50 am |
Rolly,
Hehehe Daniel’s probably being a good boy by being faithful to his girlfriend.
Seriously, only he can say if there’s any other motivation behind his complaint.
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July 16, 2009 at 1:54 am |
hi sir pards!..
mabuti na lang nandyan ka as guidance counsellor ano
ang hirap naman kase na lalaki ang “naha-harass”…nangyari na rin po sakin yan hehe..
but in a professional environment like yours, parang napaka-akward nga. but giving the benefit of the doubt, and those WHAT’s if’s di ba..
so keeping calm always, really is veri important. your advices are veri helpful, i guess, thats veri important, esp if we feel like saving other people’s reputation.
the guy must be cute, but he’s not gay isnt he? joke lang po.:D rgds,
ps: i am wondering kung sayo galing iyong quote na “like a fine wine which gets better as time passes,” hiniram ko kase..
July 22, 2009 at 2:27 pm |
AJ,
Hahahaha May itsura nga iyong lalake.
About that quote, no, it’s not mine but it’s a quote that’s been used for many years. I don’t think anyone can lay claim to being the original source of it.
July 16, 2009 at 2:50 am |
so is it Daniel or Dave? wala lang, I saw the name Dave in one of your replies
I’m just wondering, is it true that a mere touch on the lap of a guy already has an effect on the “package”?? haha
Anyway…it’s possible that Kate just really like Daniel that’s why she doesn’t treat the other guys in the same manner. As for Daniel…I don’t know. Puwedeng may hidden agenda. Puwede din na uncomfy talaga sha although I really haven’t met a guy who freaks out in situations like this. Usually they like it hehe
July 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm |
Verns,
How have you been? I hope things have been well with you. It’s Daniel. Dave was a typo.
About your question, it depends on the guy and depends on the touch. A lot of guys are quite sensitive in that area and a touch could meet a proportional response.
July 18, 2009 at 1:17 am |
just dropping by to say hi again! :p
July 22, 2009 at 2:32 pm |
FlaminDevil,
Hi. Are you back in KL? I hope you had a fun time back in the home country. Take care.
July 19, 2009 at 8:49 pm |
yeah right, he must confirm it first by confronting the girl..
July 22, 2009 at 2:33 pm |
The Lady in Green Ruffles,
What a long name you have there!
It’s cool though.
In fairness to Kate, that’s what I advised Daniel to do. I’m glad he agreed.
Thank you very much for both the comment and the visit. Both are much appreciated. Take care.
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July 20, 2009 at 5:47 pm |
I am certain any complaints of sexual misconduct should be first addressed between the parties involved. Where he has every right to create boundaries, it is his responsibility to use his own resources (communication with the woman ) before involving the company.
If he came to me with the problem, I would have explained the situation in those terms, and put my hand on his knee as I say, in a soft voice, “but if you rather I talk to her, I can”
Of course, then I would be in the Ethics departmnent
July 22, 2009 at 2:37 pm |
Keith,
Hahahaha Based on your suggestion (2nd paragraph), you would have ended up in the Ethics Department way ahead of Daniel.
Funny.
July 20, 2009 at 5:49 pm |
(is that over the top? i can never tell)
July 22, 2009 at 2:38 pm |
Keith,
No, that was just fine, my friend. Take care.
July 23, 2009 at 4:58 am |
I think that is the right advice – otherwise the ethics officer would ask the same question: Have you made known to her that you are uncomfortable? Have you given her the opportunity to hear her side?
Anyway, I always steer clear of these touchy situations [unless one is get paid! hehehee] and particularly office politics – life and work is hard enough! I got my own problems….
July 23, 2009 at 8:37 am |
Mario,
Same here, Pards. I watch my every move at work in order to make sure that my actions don’t come across as offensive to anyone.
True. I have enough worries of my own and this is a problem I can certainly do without.
July 25, 2009 at 2:24 am |
That’s the best recourse bro, to mediate the issue at this early stage. To bring it up at tis early stage would be so premature and in violation of due process. I hope the truth will come out and that the entire issue would be resolved with finality.
July 27, 2009 at 7:56 am |
Major Tom,
How have you been, Pards? I agree with you that due process has to be observed in matters like this. Objectivity needs to be maintained in the absence of unassailable evidence that an offense was indeed committed.